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The JustPod is a podcast of the American Bar Association's Criminal Justice Section, hosted by Justin Danilewitz. This episode features a conversation with Jennifer Doleac.
Jennifer Doleac is a Stanford-educated economist, a former college economics professor, and the author of The Science of Second Chances: A Revolution in Criminal Justice, published by Henry Holt and Company and available in print as of February 24, 2026.
Justin and Jennifer discuss her new book, which is billed as "Freakonomics for criminal justice," and explores real-world experiments that suggest what policy changes and incentives offer the greatest hope of true criminal justice reform. Jennifer takes the reader through each stage of the criminal justice process, from arrest, to prison, and release, to identify data-driven solutions to make our society both safer and less punitive at the same time.
